(ps: for those curious veiwers:
Let me put the terms GFE, PSE, and HME (Honey Moon Experience) on the examination table. GFE is in line with the tender loving care, sensual and mellow, romantic and gentle sort of interaction between a SP and a client. Now PSE is the slutty, high energy sort of contact sport between a SP and a client. With HME, one can say it is the ultimate culmulation of romanticism and loving feeling between a SP and a client. Surely these definitions or descriptions can be amended or tailored to individual needs. Still they are conceptually distinct but compatible with each other. That is to say, one can have GFE, PSE, and HME in a rendezvous with an SP. Perhaps the simultaneous manifestation of GFE, PSE, and HME can be expressed in terms of the orgasms of the participants during the rendezvous? It is interesting to hear this not just from the hobbyists’ opinions but from the SPs’ perspectives as well. 
Thanks.
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Ok I'm going to ask the questions gaian, as I got no answer, I'm also trying it here instead of the lounge to see if I have better luck.
Now, before anyone goes ballistic on me I did do a search and found no answer.
I see more and more adds like this YMMV+, YMMV ++, GFE +, PSE +
Now I will think that GFE + may refer to all the regular GFE services plus Greek or some other trick, I guess but what the heck is YMMV++???? If your milage will vary, how can it be ++ ?? What are the 2 +s for?
It will really really vary?
It will vary more and more?
In additon I will have thought that a PSE expirience will have included pretty much everything you may think off (unless you are into roman showers in which case you need to see someone rigth now), so what is the + for?
OK so now you can kill the messanger, send me searching for the 1000th answer to my dumb question on the board or inform me of how unsensitive I'm by asking the YMMV question again.
or
answer my questions and clear the confusion. (at least for me)
CJ652 +++ --- * 2
I have no idea what any of these things mean and I'm supposed to be an SP. People call me up and list off acronyms.. and I say 'Huh? What? I don't know if I do that. Just read a review...'
I know what a Roman Shower is, though. I guess thats the kind of thing you gotta see someone about immediately before you change your mind...
Sadie
My PSE criteria based on the discussion so far:
- Greek
- facials or the equivalent, ie. elsewhere on her body
- sexy attire and demeanour
- vocal and active
- role playing
fml
I know that GFE means an SP will provide a service similar to that of your girlfriend - you can't hire your own girlfriend (thus leaving no other option but to simulate) BUT you can get a REAL PORNSTAR. I simply meant that I would not be interested in having a SP simulate an experience with a Pornstar - I actually want a Pornstar and I would expect her to provide the same services/options to me as she is willing to do on camera (not including BBFS). I have no interest in having someone who has been in a movie just to say that I did her - I happen to have a pornstar/stripper fetish
Yeah, you can pretty much see a porn star these days, but I've read some reviews here over the years where the time with a porn star is not always PSE, let alone GFE. I'm not talking about "clicking" or anything either. More like CBJ, no CIM of COF. I'm not trying to start a debate on health and all that, but just adding my 2 cents.
Anyhow, just to reiterate my definition: Greek, COF, CIM, BBBJ, positions and most important, attitude. Doesn't necessarily mean those options are free, but you catch my drift. In my opinion, one doesn't necessarily need to do an actual porn star for a PSE.
Again anyone can come with their own definition here it is simply a matter for us to define a concept that will be used to describe a serie of services offer by an escort.
I got to disagree with the definition of Spin here. Like well said by Bryson PSE is only to define a simulation. Other than that Spin good for you if you had the chance to achieve a fetish of yours, but this cant be called PSE it would be more like PS tout court lol. I mean... this is just sexe with a porn star whatever services she gives. Keep in mind that we are trying to establish a standard of service for an acronym to define services that are more than GFE. If you do not agree with our definition for this standard of services I will be kmore than happy that you suggest another acronym that fit the bill.
The definition of PSE in my anterior post is not even my own definition of it. But I took the time to read the comments of the others and tried to make sure that the level of difficulty to obtain that title is not to high. I think that I came up with a definition who can be a minimum to be declared PSE. If an sp can provide more than that great! She will just be a PSE+Xtras.
Let me know what you think of my definition in my previous post guys!!!
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OK RobinXwood, I have NOT had a chance to achieve this fetish of mine - didn't say I had just said it was one (Not so "good for me" I guess).
Anyway you are more than free to disagree with my definition, this is what makes the internet so great BUT I don't see how you can say that having sex with a porn star is not a Porn Star Experience. In my opinion (and my opinion only) I find it impossible to define PSE by narrowing it down to a few sexual acts that an SP is willing to do - there are hundreds of different types of porn out there, from soft core romantic (much more like GFE) to extreme throat fucking.
Let me ask you a question: If you were to spend time with Malezia (who is actually a Porn Star and described as PSE on Sunny's web site - sorry forgot the name of the agency) Would that not be considered a porn star experience?
I gave my opinion on what I thought PSE was, I also in an earlier post said that I was in agreement with honestAbe on his definition. You don't need to argue with me because our thoughts on the subject are not the same - we are all just giving opinions here.
One last thing, until I read this thread I was under the impression that all Sp's defined as "PSE" were actual porn stars - I was obviously mistaken.
Spin
We are getting in details now! So here it is in a new (logical) order :
A) Nice attitude and feeling of real pleasure during the session.
B) Sexually Provocative Attire, Toys and role playing.
C) Good BBBJ is a must (Is that enough? should we make it DTBBBJ???).
D) DATY and Digits
E) Multiple positions FS avaliable
F) Vocal and active.
G) Greek (sp here must be able to accomodate most of regular sized)
H) Facial, CIM or PEARLS (SP must offer at least one of these)
Prescisions :
Point A : An sp with a nice attitude and welcoming [addition by PCGuy], I guess here we are talking about politeness and basic respect of course this depends of the attitude of the client (like any other Public job). The SP dont enjoy the PSE activities otherwise there is no point, she as to be willing and even show pleasure during the session. Sp must be able to make you confortable quickly.
Point B : A marked effort for the clothes. Anything else than fruit of the looms or your mama bra and panties. We are talking about clothes made to open the sexual appetite of man, not to make woman confortable only. The SP must enjoy toys either brang by gentleman or by her to fit in this new PSE definition. [addition by PCGuy] Role playing if desired, please give us prescisions here...
Point C : Here any girl can offer this, the question is if she wants to offer it and if she as the talent to give a good one. As for DT I dont know if it is too much to ask for some sp. If this eliminate too many it should be considered extra, let me know what you think.
Point D : [complete new point by robinXwood] This activities are enjoyed by many of us when the pussy is trimmed and clean, post your details please.
Point E : [complete new point by PCGuy] Of course to me it was automatic but it is better to prescise. Here we go with our clasics, Missionary, Cowgirl, Doggie style any other one I forgot???
Point F : [complete new point by femaleluver] Vocal but not the exagered kind one who feels natural, no fake welling here. Sp must be active during the session, it must be exchange like a partners who are dancing.
Point G : Greek in that case is one of the important points. It must not be a YMMV thing. To be called a PSE, an SP must be able to accomodate most of clients and enjoy this activity. This is what takes it futher. This of course is relative to the size that the SP can handle.
Point H : Any of those can be chosen by the sp. If she dont like the taste she have other options. If she do not want to mess her hair or makeup (sometimes expensive extensions LOL or long job make up) she will have other choices.
*If these activities are not possible ,then the SP will not qualify for this category.
INPUT INPUT INPUT!
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I would like to add that in order to have a PSE experience one does not have to engage in all the suggested ideas. Probably a tall order to even try for some of us. You may do only BBBJ, DATY, and MPOS and feel like it was PSE due to her attitude and enthusiasm.
Whats the old saying... "I'll know it when I see it."
Trixie pointed out to her client, "YMMV, Rodney, seeing as you just blew your load after shaking my hand
I remember the good old days when I'd just stroll down to skid row and pick up a prostitute for a nickle without any new fangled fuckin' acronyms!
I'm so envious of Eddie's nipples. Talk about a total PSE! WOW.
Fuck your obsolete acronyms and your hot pink nipples, you turd!
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